Funny Comment

"DoubleDragon" (mitsubishi)
05/17/2014 at 14:39 • Filed to: None

So I made a funny comment on OPPO. Without being offensive, I was just stating the truth and it just was really funny when I read it.

Also lots of people will disagree, because some love manual, some don't, etc.

I love the new auto + tiptronic, because after driving all sorts, tiptronic in cars that do it right (japanese cars) is really really a joy to drive. Less foot ache too. Manual is horrible in city traffic. Also after a tiring day, manual is not the best for your body. Sometimes when im tired after work, driving a manual is just... ugh.

the comment:

manual is like the old school rogaine- kids nowadays don't need one, old men from a bygone era still need it.

DISCUSSION (33)

IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 14:42

I'm 25. I own 5 cars. They all have manual transmissions. Your point is invalid.

DoubleDragon > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK
05/17/2014 at 14:45

which part? come on, humour me. ;)

IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 14:48

I've already fed the troll more than I should.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 14:50

Depends really, I've always driven manual and it just feels automatic to me now.

DoubleDragon > IDROVEAPICKUPTRUCK
05/17/2014 at 14:54

Thanks, I'd reply the same except I respect our differences.

Also you did not address how you'd NEED an Auto. My mom with her leg that was affected by polio needs it because manual just hurts her leg. And she is a car enthusiast.

And my wife's mom? she's just fat and can't drive a manual like she used to. An auto helps her tremendously.

Not to mention my friends dad with an amputated leg that can still drive due to having an auto... with tip tronic he can actually drive like he would without the leg.

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 14:55

Tiptronic in a Japanese car?

Tiptronic is a specific brand of automatic used by Porsche and maybe sometimes Audi.

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 14:58

Really? didn't know that. My mitsubishi had this auto gear changer they labeled "tip tronic"

most cars in australia with auto changer is labelled tip tronic, even in car reviews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubish…

look at the tiptronic references. Must be incorrect terminology.

TW (2004–2005)

ES (previous 3.5-Litre V6; manual and 4-speed tiptronic transmission)

LS AWD sedan (previous down-powered 3.5-Litre V6; 5-speed tiptronic automatic)

LS wagon (previous 3.5-Litre V6; 4-speed tiptronic automatic; LS FWD sedan discontinued)

VR wagon (previous uprated 163 kW 3.5-Litre V6; 5-speed tiptronic automatic; rare model; VR sedan discontinued)

VR-X sedan (previous uprated 163 kW 3.5-Litre V6; manual or 5-speed tiptronic automatic)

VR-X AWD sedan (previous down-powered Sports/VR 3.5-Litre V6; 5-speed tiptronic automatic; new model replacing VR AWD sedan)

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:04

Weird! I always thought it was a specific product that VAG now owns the rights to. I could be wrong. Or maybe they did but licensed it out to other companies. Dunno.

In any case it is simply a traditional torque converter automatic that can be shifted manually. Most car companies offer this by now.

A DCT is a manual box that uses a robotic mechanism to shift the gears for you when you pull the paddle, or you can run in auto mode and have it do it all.

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:06

wow thanks for the info! in australia all auto cars with option to change gears via pushing the gear shifter up or down once to change gears are called "Tip-Tronic"

I learned a lot from reading your reply.

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:08

What do you call the paddle auto shifters in your part of the world? or auto's with "tiptronic"?

In the Mitsubishi the tiptronic system is awesome. It feels so racecar like. I tried the KIA version too, but you are right, most cars offer it nowadays. Pretty fun.

Crocket Bernet > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:12

You do you, Imma do me. Manuals for life!

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:12

No prob!

I think car companies in the AU are allowed to do whatever they want. If VAG tries to sue them then they'll just challenge them to fights or send deadly spiders their way!

Leadbull > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:14

I know Porsche licenses the name out to people. I don't know if they did that with any Japanese companies, though.

DoubleDragon > Crocket Bernet
05/17/2014 at 15:14

Right on brother! Options for either for life!

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:15

In the US each car company has its own brand. BMW calls it something like "speedselect" or "speedshift", I can't remember because I don't own one of those boxes. Right now I have 3 different cars with 3 different types of manuals - a 6 speed stick, 6 speed single clutch robotized manual (SMG) and a 7 speed DCT robotized manual.

Leadbull > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:17

Kinja'd!!!

Manuél Ferrari > Leadbull
05/17/2014 at 15:18

Maybe they started making extra cash by licensing it out to everyone once they had PDK ready. Tiptronic is now their red headed stepchild transmission. I think the only model that still uses it is the Cayenne. The Panamera and Macan are PDK only and the sports cars are stick or PDK.

DoubleDragon > Leadbull
05/17/2014 at 15:19

Wait, lets get this straight. So the auto shifters, in Japanese cars, are incorrectly labelled as tip tronic, correct?

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:21

lol/ Why do you think that is? its getting confusing. And yes, spiders, deadly. I saw one the size of a football once, including its legs. the abdomen or the actual part of the spider was the size of your palm, if not bigger

Leadbull > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:29

Possibly, I don't know.

DoubleDragon > Leadbull
05/17/2014 at 15:30

cool thanks for replying. something to clarify with my dad, the king of knowledge lol.

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:39

I dunno, haha.

The size of a football! Oh lord!!

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:40

Yeah and I wasn't joking!!!

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:44

I lived in Sydney for a year. I'm glad I never saw a spider like that!

Leadbull > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:47

As far as I can tell from the Google, Porsche only licensed the name out to VAG, Land Rover, and Citröen, oddly enough.

I think Rusto mentioned this, but Mitsubishi may be legally protected somehow. Or maybe they paid Porsche to use the name, and I just can't find anything about that.

I just don't know...

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:50

Yeah it wasn't poisonous, but it sure looks the part!

how was sydney? too many "yobbos" ? lol

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 15:53

Haha there were some. But I loved it. Great city!

What city are you in?

Oh I guess I should actually weigh in on this debate. I'll start a new comment for that.

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 15:55

hey, great city as in Hot Babes? lol

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 16:05

My personal opinion on street cars (not bringing racing into the picture as this post is talking about street cars):

*If you live in an area that doesn't have much traffic then sticks are moar better. They're moar engaging, cheaper to maintain, and just better overall.

*If you live in an area with a lot of traffic then automatics can make sense, especially if you drive a lot for work.

*If you have a health issue that makes driving a stick difficult or painful then automatics make sense.

*The ideal setup is to have more than one car. That way you can have some sort of automatic and a stick. You can use the auto when you need to and the stick when you want to. That's my setup right now and I love it. I took the 6MT out last night and it felt special and fun because I hadn't driven it all week. When it was my only car shifting felt less special because I did it every day. Variety is the spice of life.

*When buying an automatic you have a ton of choices these days:

1. Traditional torque converter automatic (slushbox) that is not designed for manual shifting.

2. Slushbox with manual shifting mode (e.g. Tiptronic)

3. CVT

4. Single clutch robotized manual (which is effectively only available with used cars as I believe the only car for sale today that uses one is the Aventador)

5. Dual clutch robotized manual (DCT)

All of these options have their pros and cons. A well sorted DCT that is reliable will be your best choice in a sports car or sports sedan if you really don't want a stick. But they're still expensive. The ZF 8 speed manual shifting slushbox that's used by a ton of car companies today seems to be the best value when it comes to automatics. It's nearly as fast as some DCTs and has that 8th gear for high speed cruising.

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 16:05

YES!

DoubleDragon > Manuél Ferrari
05/17/2014 at 16:08

any pictures? lol

Manuél Ferrari > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 16:10

I don't think I have any. This shows how old I am - I was there when I was in college in 2000. That was before everyone had camera phones. There were digital point and shoot cameras around but I didn't own one at that time, haha. Taking traditional 35MM pictures and keeping them around was so much harder

Roberto G. > DoubleDragon
05/17/2014 at 16:48

What the heck is a "rogaine"?... and the thing kids nowadays need more, is a kick in the ass.